A couple of questions; i can i guess happily know some contacts for weapons/equipment buying, what i wish to know is if i can find somewhere (and afford) a very basic "holoprojector" type technology, that might just mask my face, so with the correct clothes i could pretend to be a worker at the facility. (and the possibility of find these for everyone)
Second thing, I have a pistol, so sorted there, but a high tech installation will have autamated security, e/m grenades? 2 or 3 ?

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Lol, it's funny you guys are worrying about the security at the club. Kenada makes dodgey deals all the time and regualrly checks for surveilance. He'd also happily put you in the VIP room to avoid being overheard by Joe Punter having a drink. But i guess you could assume he himself might want to record you...

Using Parcs office would work fine or there is always the H..EL down the road. That place charges by the hour...

As for weapons, etc. Kenada is able to source most of that stuff and is probably a regular supplier but any of you could easily know someone else who can get things. Though Kenada has a large network and can get more obscure items.

A pistol for Loki, $500 including a couple of mags. Easy stuff to get.

A cheap 'holoprojector', no such thing really but if you want cheap them makeup and latex would set you back about $200 (each) and not get deactivated by hacking or ECM. I would recommend an old fashioned disguise but if you really want to go for a projector, it's practically a mini quest. $8000 atleast and finding someone with one to spare...

EM grenades... after what Loki just said? You may be able to find 2 or 3 in time for the mission, they're likely to be about $300 each. I'm hoping you will all be making the infiltration though and Loki should be able to hack any remotes as you go. Only long range robo guns should be an issue and there will be other ways around those. As an aside, i don't like the old school type cyberpunk netrunning where the team goes in an the runner is there only in the net, not actually in person. Much better if the runner is with the team, participating and when a hack is needed then goes into the net. This fits the style of Infinty more too.

Tabris: you have 2 old mines left over form your days in legitimate employment. The Ojotnik ammo is included in the $200 i mentioned earlier for a long firefight. That cash covers a bit of everything you're likely to be shooting around.

Radio and time triggers cost the same. The charge only needs to be one but you could use a few smaller ones but they'd need more triggers. The charge can easily be a form of plastic explosives and you break it up into the sizes you need. (Now i wonder if this post is going to show up on some FBI computer somewhere... hehe)

Anything else?

We should probably have a llimited amount of time till the mission has to start, so i'll say you've spent two days on 'shopping' and stuff like that. Any weapons you needed to buy, or armour but not holoprojectors would have been found in this time. As would the disquises.

Loki will be with the team hacking as we go.

A couple of other items he might need...

1) a small portable repeater that could be carried by another team member, if we have to split up for any reason Loki could still provide hacking support to both groups.

2) A high power EM weapon like a Taser, something that works only on direct contact and delivers enough voltage to burn out a cube...

The intention being that if we have to leave some bodies on the ground, they cannot be used to ID us.

I assume we don't have neither a car nor a motorcycle, if we got it no problem. If we don't we should buy, rent or steal one.

I'd like to RP those initial stages, as they are fundamental for the interaction between PCs (as those are the first moments PCs meet each other), so if the others guys want we could make those "preparation" last for a while, discussing and knowing each other a bit before being side by side with bullets whistling around.

What do you think guys?

I wrote this as I understood (or possibly misunderstood) Palocles said something about skipping those 2 days of shopping... if it wasn't so never mind what I wrote.

I didn't mean to say 'skip those two days' just that we should keep the in game time moving along and that the shopping could have been done already in the time that has past.

If you really want to RP that sort of stuff thats fine but i don't want to get bogged down in secondary details. No one bothers to RP their D&D characters going to the toilet or cooking do they? And nor do they usually RP buying arrows and lantern oil between adventures.

As for transport, yeah, you'll probably need some. There are as many options as you can think of. Stealing a car would mean you aren't linked to the vehicle, besides forensically but could lead to issues with being on Police watch lists (the car not you guys). Renting is an option that wont have any police issues until the mission goes ahead but would require false documents and posibly disguises to avoid bing linked through the rental firm.

I think it's safe to assume there is a way to get hold of a 'clean' car from an underground source, probably rebirthed after being stolen somewhere else. That would actually be most expensive though because the guys who stole and converted the car are going to want market rates for the vehicle and they are unlikely to bother doing that stuff on an old POS.

Although i just thought that you could aways doing a cash purchase of some old POS as a private sale from the supermarket notice board of a wreckers. That would be cheap but the vehicle might not be reliable...

Anywhere i mentioned 'car' above, you can substitute van or pick up or whatever vehicle type.

And you can take taxis to get around two for other stuff, you would have all spent a couple hundred creds/$$ by the end of the week anyway so it could be included in that.

Costs to buy a clean car from the underground would be $5000 or more, depending on what you want. Getting one from the classifieds about $500.

Loki, a repeater can be done probably off the shelf in an electronics shop, obviously not military quality though. $800.

The taser i would think wouldn't be able to wipe a Cube, the police would never be allowed to use something that could wipe a cube, nor could anyone manufacture them legally. The closest thing you could get would be a EM CCW but i don't think they'd be easy to find, hardly any models in the game even have them.

If you leave disquises on during the op., or even black balaclavas you shouldn't have to worry about being IDed. I wouldn't have even thought about getting evidence from cubes without you mentioning them like that.

That's OK, more than RPing the "shopping list" I meant to RP "a bit" the first time our PC meet.
As we are a group of individuals... no one trust another in the group, we know only the name of the others, and probably it's even false!
As Palocles said it's not a D&D party where PCs are "old friends"... things could get nasty and someone of us could even think it's better to not leave other witness alive... inside the group! This part should be needed to start possible friendships or hates, to help linking each other and finding an equilibrium among us.
However, that's MY opinion... and the majority wins! ^___^

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I suggest a Van, we can prepare, dress up, hide, whatever in it.

I think we could use a rented car for the preparations (lo-cost, no troubles), and steal one just the night of the incursion (no police troubles as it's only 2-3 hours after the theft).

Hi guys, August is approaching and holidays with it.
I'll be online surely till the 5th of August, then I hope I'll be able to go to the beach for (deserved?) rest.
I'll be online occasionally till the end of the month, when I'll be back to work (yes, loooooong holidays).
So if you want to continue I can't be much present, and if we decide to suspend for the holidays let's discuss about it.

cheers.

Tabris.

Well, since nobody answered i guess you're on holiday too... This is probably my last post since September. So, happy good time mates, see ya next month.

I'm not on holiday.

But i am in October.

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So, what's up guys?

One month just passed up, and no one posted in it... neither to say "I'll be off line for some time".
Just no one feels like going on with this? Did it annoyed you so far?

I was actually going to write up some basic RPG rules for a full ground up Infinity RPG for my buddies to play. I've been hitting a few problems as far as abilitie scores go, though. I want to use the same basic stats from the game with CC, BS, PH, WIP and I can't think on one more just to get to 5. Basically the players would play as Mercenaries, or if everyone agreed to it they could play as a special ops team for a certain army. 3d6 to determine stats, use same basic "roll a d20, roll below stat after modifiers" type deal.